Information on NSFW Games and Between Humanity


Hey guys!

You may have seen by now that itch.io has temporarily de-indexed all adult NSFW games from their site. You can read their official statement here: itch.io’s update on NSFW content.

How does this affect my game? Right now, this doesn't change much for me, so I mostly want to give you guys a head up and share my thoughts. According to itch.io, this block is temporary while they sort out their stuff. I assume that they'll add a checkbox which says that you're complying to the rules of their payment processors. My game doesn't contain any of the content that caused these bans, everything in the story is fully consensual. So, as far as I can tell, the game is safe under the current rules, especially since it's also on Patreon, which has already strict guidelines.

I also want to say that I'm not relying on this project as my full-time income. Many devs do, they're hit a lot harder by this than I am, and I feel for them. For me, working part-time on this project comes with its own hurdles, but the one good thing is, it is not an existential threat to my livelihood. I'm still sad, angry, and disappointed about this whole situation but I'm doing okay mentally. I just hope this doesn't escalate into an outright ban on all NSFW content since I still dream of doing this full-time at some point.

What now? As long as Patreon and SubscribeStar stay up, I'll keep working on the game like always. So please don't worry, the development goes on. I have made some dedicated posts for the latest release and pinned them on top of Patreon/SubscribeStar, so you can easily find everything if necessary.

For anyone who prefers it, the SFW version of the game, Beyond Humanity, is up now and won't be affect by any of this. So if you'd rather play the story without adult content, that option is now there for you, at least for Chapter 1. It is a prototype which I want to test out if people would like to get their hands on. There is no difference in content to Between Humanity other than the removal of the NSFW scenes.

If you'd like to show support for indie NSFW creators, here are some petitions pushing back against this overreach by payment processors:

The future? If itch.io doesn't continue to support NSFW creators, it might be worth looking for novels through a site that only lists and rates them, without hosting downloads or needing payment providers but provide links to the developer's pages instead. I haven't tested it myself, but I found my game on it, so it can't be that bad, right?

I appreciate you all for sticking with me. Let's hope this gets resolved soon and that adult creators can keep doing what they love (in a legal manner) without payment companies trying to police art.

Thank you for reading this far. The news hit like a truck today, but things have calmed down a bit, at least on my end. So I'll close this with a big thank you for your continued support. Let's see what the future holds for us adult story lovers.

-Panda

TL;DR: Between Humanity doesn't break any rules (no illegal or non-consensual content). There is a 'copy' of the game without NSFW elements called Beyond Humanity on itch.io now. The itch.io NSFW block is temporary. I'm still developing the game

PS: Feel free to connect on other platforms like Patreon / SubscribeStar (both have free tiers) or Discord since we can't be sure if this is going to end bad.

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what if they tried to ban violence in games. lol there'd by rioting in the streets like never seen before xD

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how much more of our society is gonna be censored?? this is getting rediculous. and i know its not your fault and i hope your back up and runnin soon.

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True, it's just not right to block and censor everything because one little black sheep is doing bad things. Thank you very much, I hope so too!

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Your story is too good to lose, and I hope this BS gets straightened out quickly.

Hang in there, and fingers are crossed for a good outcome!

Thank you very much, I hope so too!

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We gotchu Pandy :PandaCultLove:

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<3

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Well thanks to the new UK legislation released TODAY Between this and the Collective cuck brigade.. we've now been geoblocked from viewing NSFW content on itch.Io, AND Reddit.. Cannot even view Pandas profile! I truly hope this is temporary..  This week's been shit ;-; 

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That's shit indeed. I've had to read about it to know what's going on but it looks like they're doing the same Germany has been doing for years, where you can't access adult games on steam, since steam blocked them in Germany due to age verification requirements. Correct me if I'm wrong, but yeah, that's shitty.

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VPNs will be the new future it seems.

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I should try to get a certain VPN company to sponsor BH you say? :D

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Worth a try xD

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L to collective shout, why do they have to do this kind of shit now of all things. 

I'm still always going to be here Panda, so I hope this doesn't discourage you into completing your masterpiece of a VN fam. Stay hydrated and Godspeed. 💛 💚 💙

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Thanks! Will continue to work on it like I wrote, so don't worry! :)

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Think happy thoughts fam and everything will be fine :D 

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My thoughts as well :D

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Looks like people need to make f95 home...

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Well, they don't rely on payment processors, so that's convenient. But if adult devs, many of whom do this full-time, can't get paid, they'll have to find other jobs. That means less new content in the future. You can't pirate something that never gets made.

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In case someone missed the link in the post and is a U.S.A. Citizens Here is a link to the ACLU's petition.
  https://action.aclu.org/petition/mastercard-sex-work-work-end-your-unjust-policy

This isn't a normal petition, but a call for legal action. Please sign so that those that work in this industry and adjacent industries don't have to worry about Payment Processors' harassment. 

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Such shitty news. I just got into AVNs and now this whole VISA and Mastercard mess comes up. What a damn pain.

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Ah, so that's why the "Recomendations for <game>" page wasn't working this past few days.

Let's hope this resolves quickly and we can keep enjoying our NSFW games!

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Exactly, you can't search/browse any adult content right now. I'm glad the dev log still reached out to the people who follow me on itch.

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fair access to banking act W

collective shout L

fuck collective shout

entonces el problema de que la página no salga como antes ni puedas buscar los juegos ni nada se debe a un fallo en la página ? pero que paso contexto

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Hola amigo,

El problema es que organizaciones como "Collective Shout" estan presionando a las entidades de pago como American Express, VISA, Mastercard a que no acepten pagos de creadores que dichas orgs consideran indecentes, a pesar de que el contenido es absolutamente legal.

Por eso Itch decidio "retirar" temporalmente los juegos y otro contenido para adultos hasta que puedan hacer una revision.

Si puedes, firma las peticiones que figuran en el post, para demostrar tu desacuerdo con estas medidas de las entidades de pago.

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ha ok no lo sabia siempre se meten con algo que no hace daño a nadie o que ellos no pueden controlar , espero que itch.io se recupere pronto y podamos seguir disfrutando de estos juegos que tanto nos gustan gracias por la info y si firmare también 

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 Such a awful news from Itchio... I wish you big strength! And keep it up 💪🏽

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Indeed, thank you very much, will do!

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it's sad times indeed for a lot of games and platforms...best of wishes and luck to you and all fellow NSFW dev's...i truly enjoy your work from the moment i first read your AVN and also love your communication with the community. Keep up the amazing work DebatingPanda. Hope we all can enjoy our NSFW and kinks again without anyone interfering....

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Thank you very much! I too hope so too, and that they're all calming down a bit, we're not hurting anybody. Welp, let's go sign those petitions to hopefully fight back I guess!

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I still dont understand why payment partners are so up in arms over nsfw games. If you can pay for a game you are most likely an adult who should be allowed to play these games. What are they thinking? Do they just want nsfw creators to not have an income or something for no reason? What is their unjustified hatred for these devs about?

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Apparently it's an organisation called "Collective Shout" which has some deep influence on the payment processors. Don't ask me how exactly that works out, but that seems to be the case.

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Since it's mostly the Search that has been disrupted on Itch, I collected all the links I had to pages that haven't been deleted, and save them to this collection: https://itch.io/c/6089350/find-all-the-avns-i-could-save-links-to

Save this link, share it, let me know if you have more. This will make sure people can still find our favorite stuff.

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Nicely done! Yes the search doesn't work anymore but the browsing is also a huge bummer, since nobody can find the games if they don't know the name.

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Thanks mate, you're a hero!

Though, when did Itch's search actually work? 😁

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Here's hoping the token appeasement process is all itch.io does. I think they know it's not really in their best financial interests to can all their NSFW content. And Frankly i dont think they wanted to go this far in the first place it's not good for business. 

Hope everything goes well for you and you can continue doing what you love! your fans still support your work!

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I think it was an affective reaction based on their message they had no time to message creators before they took action.

Thank you very much, I hope so as well!