Looks great and the story thus far is pretty interesting. I was just wondering if you did the models entirely yourself or if you started with a base model and worked from there?
Also curious what programs you use in your development pipeline.
Thank you! Everyone starts with a base model and we've to work from there, but the variety of characters shows how much you can achieve even with a base model.
I use a lot of programs, for example renpy, vsc, photoshop, neo v2 and something like notepad++, command line, even visual studio 2022 for developing the translation tool.
Thank you very much for the overview of your programs! How would you recommend someone begin their learning path as compared with how you started your foray into development?
Thanks for answering him Scarlett! :D Exactly what I'd have written as well, working hard on it, also depending on releases of other games, I'll try to not intervene with other big game's release time frames.
Termine el capitulo 3 anoche.. Solo puedo decir que tiene muy buena pinta y me encanta la idea de ver el desarrollo de personajes, De momento la idea mia es seguir la Ruta de Anya, aunque estoy curioso de saber si cada final de capitulo tiene diferente final segun la ruta de cada personaje, así que en breves creare un save nuevo para comprobarlo,
La historia tiene una pinta muy interesante me da curiosidad saber que le paso a Lilith, Espero que la historia no se vaya por el lado de violacion y/o prostitucion.. es algo que no lo veo como para un juego por mas +18 que sea el juego, pero fuera de eso lo que hay hasta el momento esta bueno y si es recomendable,
¡Gracias! ¡Me alegra que te esté gustando hasta ahora! No habrá ningún tipo de violación ni prostitución de ningún personaje romántico en mi juego, no te preocupes por eso. Estoy trabajando duro en el Capítulo 4, ¡mantente atento a los dev logs para más información!
Hey, I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or what, but whenever I load my save I am missing all the phone backgrounds I unlocked in previous play sessions. Is there a way to fix this? I don't play in the browser if that means anything.
Hey, that's a rather interesting bug. Usually your unlocked phone backgrounds are saved in the persistent file. Someone had that issue before because they were missing permissions to write to said persistent file. Can you check the folder "%appdata%/Renpy/BetweenHumanity-1679746291" if there are files and if the persistent file is maybe like 500+ KB in size.
Exactly, there should be all the stored variables. What size is the file? And are your save games stored at that spot too?
When windows has trouble saving anything at that location, then it would explain why you won't have unlocked phone background except the custom and default ones.
Did you by chance exported it from the web build? I noticed that sometimes the export function gets interrupted and doesn't export everything. 25kb for the persistent file is way to small, it should be at least 100+kb
hello, i have reached chapter 3 at end and saved because it say to save, then i redownloaded it and kept my save file, then i continue to load but then its only chapter 3 it ended i could not do chapter 4, what to do?
Hi! Thank you very much, happy to hear! :) Very nice that the Spanish translation works well, my efforts in making a translation tool seem to have been worth it!
I just downloaded the game and I’m really enjoying it so far. However, I was wondering if it might be a mistake that the French translation is labeled as humain ? Because, without wanting to be rude or downplay the person’s effort, I can guarantee it’s not natural French. There are basic phrasing, wrong word, verb tense error and linking errors that strongly resemble Google Translate from English to French or a poor AI translation, it’s immediately noticeable to a native French speaker. I find it more enjoyable to play directly in English , again sorry if I appeared rude.
Hey, happy to hear that you enjoyed it so far! The french translation was actually done by people, no AI. Was it noticeable in every Chapter or only in Chapter 3? Pointing out that a translation isn't correct, is not rude in my opinion so don't worry. :) I'll look into it later.
I played the first part of the game in French but switched to English because it was smother to read so i can't really talk to much about chapter 3 but the French version often felt a bit unnatural sentences were sometimes oddly structured, words were out of order, and the mix of formal and informal language didn’t sound right. It had that “Google Translate” vibe, even though the meaning was still perfectly understanble
first in the optional briefing at the very beginning, and at one point a whole word seemed to be missing (I’d have to reread the chapter to be sure). I did saw similar issues in the other chapter while taking a quick look , but those parts "problem" felt more like literal, word-for-word translations from English to french.
The issue is just the phrasing , sometimes it sounds strange or slightly off but maybe it's just that i am to strict in my style. Anyway thanks for the reply, looking forward to seeing what you do next
It's the same for some other languages, hence why I only work on the English main language :D makes it easier overall.
I forwarded it to the translator, let's see if there will be any changes or not, can't really promise anything here, except overhauling it with AI. Hire a company to fix it costs way too much for the amount of people who would use the translation in the end.
Hi! Between Humanity has got to be one of the most fun games I have played recently! I love that its not just porn, and the mystery of Lilith really tickles my fancy. Theres no doubt ill be coming back. Every. Single. Update. I also really liked the fact that you can only decide you want to fuck Naomi in real life on the second playthrough (or maybe my game just glitched lol) and Im curious as to whether this function will be in future updates? I alo reallyyyyy love Anya and Amber. Anyway, lots of love, and I'll deffinately support you on patreon as soon as i have some money <3
edit: kind of strange. i was on my third playthrough cuz i wanted to see if there were more options, and it didnt let me choose "Fuck yeah!" for Naomi... is there a prerequisite to say yes?
Hey there! Happy to hear that you enjoyed it so far! Yeah, I try to tell a story and add the adult elements where I see them fit, that's more to my liking. You don't need to play a game to watch porn :D but finding story intensive games with adult elements is kind of rare imo. The Naomi choice has prerequisites, yes. You need to flirt with her in the early game stages to achieve that, otherwise she won't accept your advances (as solved in Chapter 2). Always glad to receive support, so I could maybe one day invest more time into the game beside working on my day job every day, so appreciate it, thank you! :)
Hi, I played Between Humanity for the first time last week and love it. My favourite characters are Anya, Amber, Naomi, Jane and Claire. I have a question and hope it happens: Is there a scene in Chapter 4 where you fuck Claire and fuck Jane? I find both of them incredibly hot and just the idea alone turns me on, especially when you look at their relationships with my avatar. I would also love it if you could fuck Amber and Anya.
Hey there, happy to hear that you love it so far! I keep the story rather realistic and since Jane and Claire don't even know each other, that would be rather impossible to pull of, even though MC doesn't even have come close enough to any of them to go that far with both :P You'll have to wait for a couple more chapters for those things to happen.
Ah gotcha, I won't spoil the game's future contents though, sorry :)
I can't say yet, since even I didn't play through all four chapters yet, I'm still working on the renders for 0.4. But I would say Chapter 1 to 3 takes roughly between 5-10 hours, highly depending on your reading speed. If you skip through parts it will obviously be faster, but if you read everything it's a nice long ride.
Hey! I have an idea for a scene with Claire: The next time they go swimming and she showers in the boys bathroom, the MC doesn't leave, but goes into the changing room with her and starts fucking Claire. She's completely surprised but doesn't mind, because she wants it anyway. And that way, not only does a teacher-student relationship develop, but also a sexual relationship. And then the two of them always have sex after swimming or maybe even after class. Of course, the whole thing could also happen between Jane and the MC.
Hi! Sounds not like something Claire would easily do, I tend to keep my novel semi-realistic, so a teacher-student relationship is by default permitted and Claire wouldn't dare to approach something like that at all. Either they need to get to know each other better for it to happen naturally or something unexpected needs to happen, who knows. :) But don't worry, something is planned for sure, since Claire is a LI and therefore there will be a relationship at some point! ;)
hey i played the web version, and exported a save file to continue on after i left because i decided it was worth downloading (great game so far btw props to you!!), and i was wondering how to import the saves into my newly downloaded game?
Hey! Happy to hear, thank you very much!! I quickly copied this from my Discord servers FAQ:
• To get your save games from the web version to the pc or android version, you need to first export the saves from the web build by clicking on the three lines at the top left corner. Once downloaded, you need to extract them into the following folder (for PC: %appdata%\RenPy\BetweenHumanity-1679746291 | for Android: /Android/data/com.dbpanda.betweenhumanity/files/game/saves). If you have troubles reaching the saves location on android, I use Cx file explorer to navigate to the location.
hey there thanks for the awesome and quick response!! amazing to see how devoted you are to this im very glad to see! sorry i am on mac rn so how would that work for mac? apologies if im slow also im not in the discord thats why. sincere apologies and my greatest thanks :)
hey sorry again but i dropped the save file i extracted into the BetweenHumanity file and it still didnt load in my saves. was this the right place to put it?
in my downloads, i have the game which i extracted, i put the save file inside the game file, but it doesnt work. am i doing something wrong? sorry 💔
How do I open the menu. I’m on phone and after the start of the tutorial the menu button disappeared. I was able to save in a phone call but that was it
Did you try to restart the game and check if the buttons are back? I have no clue why they would be gone. I do have a button on the bottom to hide the ui, but once you touch the screen, they should come back as usual.
can anyone send me the discord link in dms? (yes i’m from iOS), my username is crash_tv, btw just finished the game and it was amazing, please make the 0.4 i can’t wait!
Hey! Beyond Humanity is a SFW prototype version, if enough interest is shown, I'll try to add the additional chapters which already have been released for Between Humanity, but obviously remove any NSFW parts. It's the same story, a prequel to Between Humanity might be a bit too boring for most, since it would only/mostly be slice of life.
Ohh okay I see I see. Yeah, I remember now. I respect tf out of you doing what you can to reduce AI usage. I don't necessarily hate AI, but it's good to avoid it when you can. Especially nowadays where it's absolutely everywhere. Thank you for fighting the good fight, Panda 👍
It would just cost too much to get custom made Pandalorian pictures for the amount of time I displayed them and I didn't want to not show something on the screen, but I understand people who dislike it, since some rely on their creative jobs.
Ohh okay, I see I see, (man I gotta get a less repetitive intro 💀) That makes sense. I'd rather see AI than nothing at all, lol. Even still, I'm glad you're slowly trying to replace the AI with, well, not AI.
Hey there, thank you! For the AI topic, I could add an AI toggle to just display black images on the screen instead? It was used for a couple of TV images, Pandalorian for example, since that doesn't really exist anywhere to download it from. :D
Other than that, I reduced the amount of AI usage after 0.2, so in 0.3, I don't think there is any? Up to this point 99% of the renders and the music are made without ai (as far as I can tell), though.
Ah, that makes sense why I'm only seeing it now, lol. That's really cool! AVNs are spreading to Newgrounds! Hope BH becomes just as successful on there, too!
Oh damn... I hadn't thought about that aspect. But that's true. Damn...
Well, I'm guessing then you're either gonna release chapter 4 in November or January, because I'm 90% sure Eternum 0.9 and (possibly) MBiML chapter 2 are both set for December releases. Eternum 0.9 most likely, MBiML I'm just guessing. But, that's where it seems to be headed. So, I'm guessing then BH is gonna be not in December?
I'll probably not finish the current scope in November, just not enough time every day after I'm done with my main job. If most other games release in December, then I'm doing for a January release. It's still quite a bit of animation work as well, which is the most difficult work.
Thinking about replaying this game. It's been a bit, hasn't it? I gotta refresh my memory before chapter 4 comes out! I can't wait to see my boy Mike again! I'm overdue for solid replays of a good few AVNs, actually. 😅
Oh also to DebatingPanda, sorry I stopped commenting here and shit. I mean, I know it doesn't matter, but, I just feel like a dick after talking all the time about how much I love this game, and then going silent on it. I had real reasons for not being as active as I used to be, but I still feel bad. So, I'm sorry. If it's cool I wanna start being more active on this page again!
this is gonna make me look really stupid if you reply and it turns out you dont even remember me lmaooooo
Thanks for understanding! It's a huge weight off my shoulders. Truly.
And yeah, it is good to replay, so that's what I'll do, haha. Thanks! And take your time with chapter 4! Don't rush it or push yourself too hard. We're a patient people. :)
wow,these girl's models look really good,especially lucy.but here's the one i don't like that i'm forced to have sex with some side characters from the very beginning.anyway it's just my thought....i'm looking forward to your next chapter!
You are not forced to have sex with anybody, if you refer to the Naomi scene, then your choices drive this scene, you can totally skip everything! If you're referring to the very early bj dream scene, then that didn't actually happen.
Hey congrats🥳🥳🥳 @DebatingPanda can i say something? do ypu have like a save file? Because im currently using a new phone and i just downloaded Between Humanity meanwhile my old save file is on my older phone which is totally gone now...
Thank you! :) I don't have any save files to share, sorry, maybe ask over on the discord? But it would have the choices of that person, if you want your own choices, you need to replay the game.
Funny seeing other characters from other AVNs in the back ground. When the twins take the MC to the mall you see Clara and Amy walking around from Companions of Darkness.
Makes me wonder what other cameos we are going to see in Between Humanity next. Only one way to find out- wait and see what cameos and girls we can see
I really enjoyed this one! It is quite spicy though. Ch 2 with all the h*nd h*lding and and talk about part time j*b. 😳 haven’t finished ch 3 yet. I want to savor it for as long as possible. And the humor is top notch. Great work dev. Your hard work is much appreciated.
Hey there, thank you very much, happy to hear that you like it so far! :) Yeah that h*nd h*ld*ng is quite lewd, I don't know what came over me when I added it without pixelate it...
A very nice story and the graphics are amazing. What if itchio is succumbing to the censorship disaster? Any plans to move to a different platform? I'm very eager to know how this plot is evolving.
Hey there, thank you very much! If itchio would succumb to the censorship I'll have to rely on my other pages. Not sure about any suitable sized alternative. I just hope they continue to support legal adult games.
This one is not bad... graphically awesome.... but I would say a little disappointing in the A elements of an AVN... sure there is a taste.... but honestly... the stats at the end of each chapter felt like they meant NOTHING.
I have ONE lover, at 100% Attraction, AND 100% submission... and the MC spent more time with her than just about anyone outside the twins.... and yet.... does that translate to ANYTHING in game?
Nope.
Now perhaps that is JUST narrative...sure, I COULD believe that, if that same person had NOT helped herself to you, when you were semiconscious and could not enjoy it. If there was NOT a beathplay edging scene, ending in a hard, and very hot, choking, of another female. If there was not the resolution of that edgeplay, with a sudden, violent collar grab, followed by some water logged rubber ducky levels of Hawk Tuah deep throat with that same choke loving redhead.
But there WERE those scenes.
So it tells me the Dev is not being PG about this. And he also is willing to make it rough, dominant, brutally exquisite, and go in to taboos, like throating, breathplay, edgeplay, and good old chokegasms.
YAY... but, not. Because as I said... there is a status screen after each chapter that tells your your progress with your potential Harem Honeys, and right there... it says you have 100% triggered X woman's Submission, AND 100% triggered her attraction....both by the SECOND chapter... then in the third... nothing.
I HATE games like that. All about pacing, and story, and blah blah blah.
AVNs need to deliver on the A. Sure this game kind of does, but a bit too slowly for my taste, but I would still say 5 stars all day long.... but they need to MAKE GOOD ON PROMISES MADE in relation to the A bit, even more so.
Drop the attraction and other traits logger.... OR skew it, retard it... make it so it CANNOT be 100% EVER UNLESS that person is about become accessible in that next chapter.
Having a character you already doonted, who openly admits to uncontrolled attraction to you, who's attraction score is 100%, and who;s got a submission kink, and THAT is ALSO at 100%.... turn out to be INACCESSIBLE for the ONE REASON actual cultured gamers PLAY AVNs, is BAD BAD form IMHO.
I will hold off rating this game for now. After chapter 2, I was going to rate it 10./10, Five Stars... and write an early doors rave review. After chapter THREE, I want to rate it 0./10, and Minus 100 Stars.
THAT is not fair, so I will wait, but do not F your players around.
Oh, and any White Knights who show up and have anything to say about this comment, HAHAHAHAHA eet fuk, and little grandpa D, I will just block you.
It's a story driven adult visual novel and I like it to be more on the logical/realistic side. So if I have a large amount of girls who have to be fixated on the MC, I will at least make the pacing believable, so he won't randomly have scenes with all the girls that easily. I've added some variation, e.g. Amber is more easily to get scenes with as for example Lucy. Some aren't even interested in MC at the beginning. Some are randomly interested in him, some have been interested in him for years.
Ignore the stats, honestly this is just another post I've read over the years which just might me remove the statscreen. It's just that you achieved 100% of the achievable stats so far, nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't mean "I have 100% with Lucy, where scenes?!", it's just based on the character itself and that you achieved everything I've managed to put into the game for this specific character.
There will be deeper, kinkier scenes in the future ;) But it just doesn't make any sense to include them randomly at after 3 Chapters. This isn't your typical "fuckfest" porn game, it's a story driven adult visual novel :. Whereas adult also refers to violence and horror, to a certain degree only of course.
I don't get what you mean by not seeing a certain girl in 2nd and 3rd chapter, I have to split up the screen time between the available chars and add new ones so people don't get bored by only seeing on char. I don't get which character has full attraction and is supposed to be "inaccessible". I made it easy to stay or leave a girls path so far.
Sorry that it didn't match your expectations, but my vision for the novel is to have a slow start until you will reach a point where the sex initiates naturally because MC has build a relationship with each girl and it doesn't look like it's randomly forced into the game. Takes a long time to create these scenes and I want to tell a story in the end, albeit with sex mixed in :D
Let me first say this : Your game, graphically, and the aesthetic, is AMAZING. I am also seemingly enjoying the story for now, though the details are somewhat, and I know this is by design, vague, right now, so I cannot be sure how good, or bad, or bat-sh*t cray cray THAT side of things is right now. But I like all that, everything is awesome... overall.
But that stat screen? I guess I just assumed once you made 100% with someone, SOMETHING would happen... not that it would only have to happen once... but it would be the first encounter of many down her path. In part, because they KIND OF, sorta, DID happen with a couple of girls I 100% in the first chapter.... Amber and A... whatever the A name twin is called.... tbh.... I am not good with names, I am more of a...physical traits kinda guy (like I wont recall a girls name, I will just call her Clitoris Piercing.. because she has one, or Tramp Stamp because she has one of those, or Teacher, because she is that etc etc).
So yeah, having had Naomi (I remember THAT name because it is MY FAV girls name being slightly dyslexic... because when that happens ... it is something that is dependent on volume of text... I can manage simple sentences most times... but when that kicks it... she becomes Imoan... or I MOAN... so remember that name on any lady :P )...... already jump me... what, TWICE iirc, and then having her admit she is uncontrolably attracted to me (to the point she basically R words the MC), and then seeing that once I got Amber and A twin to 100% what happened.... I just assumed that meant I would begin my strange, seemingly slightly mutually exploitative and abusive, torrid D/S sexual relationship with Miss I Moan in the final chapter, too. I had everything 100% both stats, including her kink side... so given all that... it just seemed logical.
When it did not happen, it ruined my immersion. I was just suddenly done, game over for now... no Naomi.
That what I meant by inaccessible for ONE thing... we sure dealt with her a LOT, but that WASNT the pathway to aforementioned terrible mistake I thought it was going to be.
Yeah, so, just being honest, I did find it a bit slow, on the Adult part of AVN. Everyone has their pace... but with a HUGE roster of women, which the Stats screen between chapters reveals there ARE in this game... well the game is not alone in that... in most, when there ARE so many, the MC ends up beginning his D lead charge to giving them all the best two and half minutes of their lives, pretty quickly, for at least SOME of them.
I understand to many AVN authors, it is the STORY first. You do you. I aint making them game, and it is free.... but for me the A part is JUST if not MORE important... otherwise I would just play VNs instead of AVNs :P
Considering she almost orally R'd me the first time we met, for example, being three chapters in, but getting NO time to go further with Jane, and being C blocked by the annoying daughters the ONE chance you get to try bring it up, feels like WAY TOO SLOW a burn for me, and seems to suggest the A bit will be fairly .. low key... not in terms of quality or length, pacing, blocking, etc of those scenes... but the amount.
Which breaks my fragile heart, because I was hoping to give Jane a great many repeat two and half minutes, and Amber too, and Green Haired Goth Cutie, and Teacher, and Annoying Twins, and Malfunctioning Sexbot, and Naomi... and Bright Red Hair transfer girl... and masked stripper... and lesbian toilet ingenue too actually... ... then combinations of them... three minutes spread out over Jane, and Annoying Twincs, or one of them, at once, or Green Goth girl and Naomi and teacher at once etc etc etc :P :P :P
But unless the adult content comes back end loaded in the story HEAVY AF, then I suspect there will not be enough of it for me at this pacing, unless the game winds up 30 chapters long lol.
So I will just hold off rating this one, or give a solid four for effort.. and come back in 24 months or so LOL, see how we wind up.
Don't mind me, I am a grumpy old sicko, who likes his AVNs VERY A heavy, is all.
This one still shows how awesome the effort you've put in otherwise is.
Yeah it's not like when you hit 100%, something will definitely happen, it's basically just that you have all of the available affection or if possible submission points for those characters, might be a bit confusing!
MC is actually the one who took initiative with Naomi and she was attracted by his boldness as she admits in Chapter 2 on the school hallway, the first time in the hospital was actually a dream and not real, the second time though... Naomi will definitely get some future scenes, but as you said, she already had more or less two and I need to manage my available screen time to introduce the other girls and have potential scenes with them in the future :)
At the moment I'm definitely more focus on getting the story going, developing the relationship with the girls. Adult content will come, once the relationships are developed, that's just natural for me to do (for most characters at least, some are not slow burn (e.g. Naomi or Amber who have scenes relatively early)). The game will definitely be a bit longer at this current pacing and the adult content will develop over time as well, when the relationships are at that point.
I will continue to put in effort and in 24 months, there should definitely be more A content in it! :D
Haha! Then I’m the same author of Eternum too :D Just kidding obviously, our games all use the same engine in the back, that's why they tend to look similar and use similar assets. We're all different people though :)
Does this only run through the site player? I think I downloaded this, and launching took me to a page.... does this not run as a stand along programme?
When launching the .exe took you to a page, you might have downloaded a scam version. Don't download from another site than my itch/patreon/subscribestar! I can only assure that those are safe to download.
Aside from that, you can download the game from here, the download links are slightly above the comments and safe to use. They should run just fine, without forwarding you to any site.
Hi, I'm using a translator. Is there a possibility of the game being translated into Brazilian Portuguese? The only language I can barely use to play is English, but I'm terrible at it.
ola estou usando tradutor, existe alguma possibilidade do jogo ser traduzido para português-br? o único idioma que consigo porcamente usar pra jogar é o inglês, mas sou péssimo
Hey debating panda can you just recommend some game like between humanity and University of problem , plz. I only found you which gives reply to everyone.
Hey there! Join the discord https://discord.gg/VFq9HSr93E and check out the #other-games channel, or ask some of the other members, they're all super helpful and will help you out for sure :)
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Looks great and the story thus far is pretty interesting.
I was just wondering if you did the models entirely yourself or if you started with a base model and worked from there?
Also curious what programs you use in your development pipeline.
Keep up the great work!
Thank you! Everyone starts with a base model and we've to work from there, but the variety of characters shows how much you can achieve even with a base model.
I use a lot of programs, for example renpy, vsc, photoshop, neo v2 and something like notepad++, command line, even visual studio 2022 for developing the translation tool.
Thank you very much for the overview of your programs! How would you recommend someone begin their learning path as compared with how you started your foray into development?
Looking forward to your next updates!
Quick question: When are you planning to release Chapter 4?
Well depending on development- could be either in December or next year for sure. Hope this answers your question
Thanks for answering him Scarlett! :D Exactly what I'd have written as well, working hard on it, also depending on releases of other games, I'll try to not intervene with other big game's release time frames.
Termine el capitulo 3 anoche.. Solo puedo decir que tiene muy buena pinta y me encanta la idea de ver el desarrollo de personajes, De momento la idea mia es seguir la Ruta de Anya, aunque estoy curioso de saber si cada final de capitulo tiene diferente final segun la ruta de cada personaje, así que en breves creare un save nuevo para comprobarlo,
La historia tiene una pinta muy interesante me da curiosidad saber que le paso a Lilith, Espero que la historia no se vaya por el lado de violacion y/o prostitucion.. es algo que no lo veo como para un juego por mas +18 que sea el juego, pero fuera de eso lo que hay hasta el momento esta bueno y si es recomendable,
¡Gracias! ¡Me alegra que te esté gustando hasta ahora! No habrá ningún tipo de violación ni prostitución de ningún personaje romántico en mi juego, no te preocupes por eso. Estoy trabajando duro en el Capítulo 4, ¡mantente atento a los dev logs para más información!
oye para cuando tiene la siguiente parte del juego está muy bueno y lo quiero terminar por completo o para cuando ya lo terminas
¡Gracias! Me alegra mucho que te haya gustado! La siguiente parte está en desarrollo, todavía tomará un poco más de tiempo, pero va muy bien.
Hey, I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or what, but whenever I load my save I am missing all the phone backgrounds I unlocked in previous play sessions. Is there a way to fix this? I don't play in the browser if that means anything.
Hey, that's a rather interesting bug. Usually your unlocked phone backgrounds are saved in the persistent file. Someone had that issue before because they were missing permissions to write to said persistent file. Can you check the folder "%appdata%/Renpy/BetweenHumanity-1679746291" if there are files and if the persistent file is maybe like 500+ KB in size.
I have a file named "persistent" in C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\BetweenHumanity-1679746291
Is this the file you're talking about?
Exactly, there should be all the stored variables. What size is the file? And are your save games stored at that spot too?
When windows has trouble saving anything at that location, then it would explain why you won't have unlocked phone background except the custom and default ones.
Sorry for the late reply.
The file size is 25kb and all my saves appear to be in the same place.
Did you by chance exported it from the web build? I noticed that sometimes the export function gets interrupted and doesn't export everything. 25kb for the persistent file is way to small, it should be at least 100+kb
hello, i have reached chapter 3 at end and saved because it say to save, then i redownloaded it and kept my save file, then i continue to load but then its only chapter 3 it ended i could not do chapter 4, what to do?
Hey there, Chapter 3 is currently the end, I'm working on Chapter 4 at the moment!
Hey, I love the game! I can't wait for the next chapter, and the Spanish translation is very well done.
Hi! Thank you very much, happy to hear! :) Very nice that the Spanish translation works well, my efforts in making a translation tool seem to have been worth it!
I just downloaded the game and I’m really enjoying it so far. However, I was wondering if it might be a mistake that the French translation is labeled as humain ? Because, without wanting to be rude or downplay the person’s effort, I can guarantee it’s not natural French. There are basic phrasing, wrong word, verb tense error and linking errors that strongly resemble Google Translate from English to French or a poor AI translation, it’s immediately noticeable to a native French speaker. I find it more enjoyable to play directly in English , again sorry if I appeared rude.
Hey, happy to hear that you enjoyed it so far! The french translation was actually done by people, no AI. Was it noticeable in every Chapter or only in Chapter 3? Pointing out that a translation isn't correct, is not rude in my opinion so don't worry. :) I'll look into it later.
I played the first part of the game in French but switched to English because it was smother to read so i can't really talk to much about chapter 3 but the French version often felt a bit unnatural sentences were sometimes oddly structured, words were out of order, and the mix of formal and informal language didn’t sound right. It had that “Google Translate” vibe, even though the meaning was still perfectly understanble
first in the optional briefing at the very beginning, and at one point a whole word seemed to be missing (I’d have to reread the chapter to be sure). I did saw similar issues in the other chapter while taking a quick look , but those parts "problem" felt more like literal, word-for-word translations from English to french.
The issue is just the phrasing , sometimes it sounds strange or slightly off but maybe it's just that i am to strict in my style. Anyway thanks for the reply, looking forward to seeing what you do next
It's the same for some other languages, hence why I only work on the English main language :D makes it easier overall.
I forwarded it to the translator, let's see if there will be any changes or not, can't really promise anything here, except overhauling it with AI. Hire a company to fix it costs way too much for the amount of people who would use the translation in the end.
Is there a Chinese version of the user manual?
Hey there, you're referring to the walkthrough PDF? I'd advice to use the walkthrough mod, there is only an english walkthrough.
Hi! Between Humanity has got to be one of the most fun games I have played recently! I love that its not just porn, and the mystery of Lilith really tickles my fancy. Theres no doubt ill be coming back. Every. Single. Update. I also really liked the fact that you can only decide you want to fuck Naomi in real life on the second playthrough (or maybe my game just glitched lol) and Im curious as to whether this function will be in future updates? I alo reallyyyyy love Anya and Amber. Anyway, lots of love, and I'll deffinately support you on patreon as soon as i have some money <3
edit: kind of strange. i was on my third playthrough cuz i wanted to see if there were more options, and it didnt let me choose "Fuck yeah!" for Naomi... is there a prerequisite to say yes?
Hey there! Happy to hear that you enjoyed it so far! Yeah, I try to tell a story and add the adult elements where I see them fit, that's more to my liking. You don't need to play a game to watch porn :D but finding story intensive games with adult elements is kind of rare imo. The Naomi choice has prerequisites, yes. You need to flirt with her in the early game stages to achieve that, otherwise she won't accept your advances (as solved in Chapter 2). Always glad to receive support, so I could maybe one day invest more time into the game beside working on my day job every day, so appreciate it, thank you! :)
Hi, I played Between Humanity for the first time last week and love it. My favourite characters are Anya, Amber, Naomi, Jane and Claire. I have a question and hope it happens: Is there a scene in Chapter 4 where you fuck Claire and fuck Jane? I find both of them incredibly hot and just the idea alone turns me on, especially when you look at their relationships with my avatar. I would also love it if you could fuck Amber and Anya.
Hey there, happy to hear that you love it so far! I keep the story rather realistic and since Jane and Claire don't even know each other, that would be rather impossible to pull of, even though MC doesn't even have come close enough to any of them to go that far with both :P You'll have to wait for a couple more chapters for those things to happen.
I don't know if you understood it that way, but I was referring more to whether the MC fucks one of them.
Another question: How long is the chapter? How many minutes, hours or days will it take me to play through the fourth chapter?
Ah gotcha, I won't spoil the game's future contents though, sorry :)
I can't say yet, since even I didn't play through all four chapters yet, I'm still working on the renders for 0.4. But I would say Chapter 1 to 3 takes roughly between 5-10 hours, highly depending on your reading speed. If you skip through parts it will obviously be faster, but if you read everything it's a nice long ride.
Hey! I have an idea for a scene with Claire: The next time they go swimming and she showers in the boys bathroom, the MC doesn't leave, but goes into the changing room with her and starts fucking Claire. She's completely surprised but doesn't mind, because she wants it anyway. And that way, not only does a teacher-student relationship develop, but also a sexual relationship. And then the two of them always have sex after swimming or maybe even after class. Of course, the whole thing could also happen between Jane and the MC.
Hi! Sounds not like something Claire would easily do, I tend to keep my novel semi-realistic, so a teacher-student relationship is by default permitted and Claire wouldn't dare to approach something like that at all. Either they need to get to know each other better for it to happen naturally or something unexpected needs to happen, who knows. :) But don't worry, something is planned for sure, since Claire is a LI and therefore there will be a relationship at some point! ;)
hey i played the web version, and exported a save file to continue on after i left because i decided it was worth downloading (great game so far btw props to you!!), and i was wondering how to import the saves into my newly downloaded game?
Hey! Happy to hear, thank you very much!! I quickly copied this from my Discord servers FAQ:
• To get your save games from the web version to the pc or android version, you need to first export the saves from the web build by clicking on the three lines at the top left corner. Once downloaded, you need to extract them into the following folder (for PC:
%appdata%\RenPy\BetweenHumanity-1679746291| for Android:/Android/data/com.dbpanda.betweenhumanity/files/game/saves). If you have troubles reaching the saves location on android, I use Cx file explorer to navigate to the location.hey there thanks for the awesome and quick response!! amazing to see how devoted you are to this im very glad to see! sorry i am on mac rn so how would that work for mac?
apologies if im slow also im not in the discord thats why. sincere apologies and my greatest thanks :)
Thank you, I try my best! :) MAC should be this location: $HOME/Library/RenPy/BetweenHumanity-1679746291
hey sorry again but i dropped the save file i extracted into the BetweenHumanity file and it still didnt load in my saves. was this the right place to put it?
in my downloads, i have the game which i extracted, i put the save file inside the game file, but it doesnt work. am i doing something wrong? sorry 💔
All good. You need to extract the .zip file into the save location. So you have your ".save" files right inside the folder.
How do I open the menu. I’m on phone and after the start of the tutorial the menu button disappeared. I was able to save in a phone call but that was it
Did you try to restart the game and check if the buttons are back? I have no clue why they would be gone. I do have a button on the bottom to hide the ui, but once you touch the screen, they should come back as usual.
can anyone send me the discord link in dms? (yes i’m from iOS), my username is crash_tv, btw just finished the game and it was amazing, please make the 0.4 i can’t wait!
Thank you very much! You can find the link on the itch page as well, here you go: https://discord.gg/VFq9HSr93E
so beyond humanity was just a prototype for this one? would be interesting if the author doesnt explore the past and just makes that a prequel.
Hey! Beyond Humanity is a SFW prototype version, if enough interest is shown, I'll try to add the additional chapters which already have been released for Between Humanity, but obviously remove any NSFW parts. It's the same story, a prequel to Between Humanity might be a bit too boring for most, since it would only/mostly be slice of life.
Any pregnancy content in this game?
I think there will be the future. Dunno for sure tho 🤷
Like insanity said, there will be in the future, it's still too early for that at the moment though :)
Fun game but the use of ai really takes me out of it. Was it just used for the tv images and the like or was it more involved in the game?
What parts of the game are AI, if I may ask? I've played Between Humanity a lot of times, and never noticed any AI. What was AI?
Check my reply :-P
Ohh okay I see I see. Yeah, I remember now. I respect tf out of you doing what you can to reduce AI usage. I don't necessarily hate AI, but it's good to avoid it when you can. Especially nowadays where it's absolutely everywhere. Thank you for fighting the good fight, Panda 👍
It would just cost too much to get custom made Pandalorian pictures for the amount of time I displayed them and I didn't want to not show something on the screen, but I understand people who dislike it, since some rely on their creative jobs.
Ohh okay, I see I see, (man I gotta get a less repetitive intro 💀) That makes sense. I'd rather see AI than nothing at all, lol. Even still, I'm glad you're slowly trying to replace the AI with, well, not AI.
edit: spelling
Hey there, thank you! For the AI topic, I could add an AI toggle to just display black images on the screen instead? It was used for a couple of TV images, Pandalorian for example, since that doesn't really exist anywhere to download it from. :D
Other than that, I reduced the amount of AI usage after 0.2, so in 0.3, I don't think there is any? Up to this point 99% of the renders and the music are made without ai (as far as I can tell), though.
I didn't know you were on Newgrounds, man! That's awesome! I hope your page there grows like this one has!
Thanks! Yeah I made that page a while ago when I had just released 0.3.1 :)
Ah, that makes sense why I'm only seeing it now, lol. That's really cool! AVNs are spreading to Newgrounds! Hope BH becomes just as successful on there, too!
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yo when is the new update coming really liked the game
Hey there, new update is planned to come out until the end of the year!
Yoo imagine if BH chapter 4, MBiML chapter 2, and Eternum 0.9 all came out at around the same time. That'd be fucking AWESOME! ✋💯🤚
I would delay BH for the sake of it, otherwise I just go under the radar which wouldn't be good at all :(
Oh damn... I hadn't thought about that aspect. But that's true. Damn...
Well, I'm guessing then you're either gonna release chapter 4 in November or January, because I'm 90% sure Eternum 0.9 and (possibly) MBiML chapter 2 are both set for December releases. Eternum 0.9 most likely, MBiML I'm just guessing. But, that's where it seems to be headed. So, I'm guessing then BH is gonna be not in December?
I'll probably not finish the current scope in November, just not enough time every day after I'm done with my main job. If most other games release in December, then I'm doing for a January release. It's still quite a bit of animation work as well, which is the most difficult work.
Thinking about replaying this game. It's been a bit, hasn't it? I gotta refresh my memory before chapter 4 comes out! I can't wait to see my boy Mike again! I'm overdue for solid replays of a good few AVNs, actually. 😅
Oh also to DebatingPanda, sorry I stopped commenting here and shit. I mean, I know it doesn't matter, but, I just feel like a dick after talking all the time about how much I love this game, and then going silent on it. I had real reasons for not being as active as I used to be, but I still feel bad. So, I'm sorry. If it's cool I wanna start being more active on this page again!
this is gonna make me look really stupid if you reply and it turns out you dont even remember me lmaooooo
All good :D no need to feel sorry. Everyone has their reasons for taking time off sometimes!
It's always a good idea to replay a game before a new chapter drops, heh. Chapter 4 will still take a while though, so no hurries. :)
Thanks for understanding! It's a huge weight off my shoulders. Truly.
And yeah, it is good to replay, so that's what I'll do, haha. Thanks! And take your time with chapter 4! Don't rush it or push yourself too hard. We're a patient people. :)
Take care of yourself, DebatingPanda! Later ✌️
Thank you! Take care of yourself too, gonna work hard to deliver a good 4th Chapter! :)
Looking forward to it 💯
wow,these girl's models look really good,especially lucy.but here's the one i don't like that i'm forced to have sex with some side characters from the very beginning.anyway it's just my thought....i'm looking forward to your next chapter!
Thank you very much! Glad you like Lucy :))
You are not forced to have sex with anybody, if you refer to the Naomi scene, then your choices drive this scene, you can totally skip everything! If you're referring to the very early bj dream scene, then that didn't actually happen.
Hey congrats🥳🥳🥳 @DebatingPanda can i say something? do ypu have like a save file? Because im currently using a new phone and i just downloaded Between Humanity meanwhile my old save file is on my older phone which is totally gone now...
Thank you! :) I don't have any save files to share, sorry, maybe ask over on the discord? But it would have the choices of that person, if you want your own choices, you need to replay the game.
Thank you very much! :) Happy to hear that you enjoyed it so far!
Hey again! Sandbox mode for certain events? I haven't decided that yet, so maybe, maybe not.
far too short. cannot wait for the next update <3 i really love Jade and Anya
Thank you very much, working on more! Jade and Anya are great ones imo!
Funny seeing other characters from other AVNs in the back ground. When the twins take the MC to the mall you see Clara and Amy walking around from Companions of Darkness.
Hey! Yeah, I like seeing familiar faces in other games too. It's nice that you noticed them :)
I swear I seen the best friend from Eternum too. Only see the back of her in one of the stores.
Yes, nice, it's Annie! :D
Makes me wonder what other cameos we are going to see in Between Humanity next. Only one way to find out- wait and see what cameos and girls we can see
Well with permission from the devs of course
As long as I can get my hands on some cards (with permission surely), I'll try to add some! ;-)
if you haven't noticed a lot of this style visual novel games have cameo's of other visual novel characters
Praise Panda
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I really enjoyed this one! It is quite spicy though. Ch 2 with all the h*nd h*lding and and talk about part time j*b. 😳 haven’t finished ch 3 yet. I want to savor it for as long as possible. And the humor is top notch. Great work dev. Your hard work is much appreciated.
Hey there, thank you very much, happy to hear that you like it so far! :) Yeah that h*nd h*ld*ng is quite lewd, I don't know what came over me when I added it without pixelate it...
A very nice story and the graphics are amazing. What if itchio is succumbing to the censorship disaster? Any plans to move to a different platform? I'm very eager to know how this plot is evolving.
Hey there, thank you very much! If itchio would succumb to the censorship I'll have to rely on my other pages. Not sure about any suitable sized alternative. I just hope they continue to support legal adult games.
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This one is not bad... graphically awesome.... but I would say a little disappointing in the A elements of an AVN... sure there is a taste.... but honestly... the stats at the end of each chapter felt like they meant NOTHING.
I have ONE lover, at 100% Attraction, AND 100% submission... and the MC spent more time with her than just about anyone outside the twins.... and yet.... does that translate to ANYTHING in game?
Nope.
Now perhaps that is JUST narrative...sure, I COULD believe that, if that same person had NOT helped herself to you, when you were semiconscious and could not enjoy it. If there was NOT a beathplay edging scene, ending in a hard, and very hot, choking, of another female. If there was not the resolution of that edgeplay, with a sudden, violent collar grab, followed by some water logged rubber ducky levels of Hawk Tuah deep throat with that same choke loving redhead.
But there WERE those scenes.
So it tells me the Dev is not being PG about this. And he also is willing to make it rough, dominant, brutally exquisite, and go in to taboos, like throating, breathplay, edgeplay, and good old chokegasms.
YAY... but, not. Because as I said... there is a status screen after each chapter that tells your your progress with your potential Harem Honeys, and right there... it says you have 100% triggered X woman's Submission, AND 100% triggered her attraction....both by the SECOND chapter... then in the third... nothing.
I HATE games like that. All about pacing, and story, and blah blah blah.
AVNs need to deliver on the A. Sure this game kind of does, but a bit too slowly for my taste, but I would still say 5 stars all day long.... but they need to MAKE GOOD ON PROMISES MADE in relation to the A bit, even more so.
Drop the attraction and other traits logger.... OR skew it, retard it... make it so it CANNOT be 100% EVER UNLESS that person is about become accessible in that next chapter.
Having a character you already doonted, who openly admits to uncontrolled attraction to you, who's attraction score is 100%, and who;s got a submission kink, and THAT is ALSO at 100%.... turn out to be INACCESSIBLE for the ONE REASON actual cultured gamers PLAY AVNs, is BAD BAD form IMHO.
I will hold off rating this game for now. After chapter 2, I was going to rate it 10./10, Five Stars... and write an early doors rave review. After chapter THREE, I want to rate it 0./10, and Minus 100 Stars.
THAT is not fair, so I will wait, but do not F your players around.
Oh, and any White Knights who show up and have anything to say about this comment, HAHAHAHAHA eet fuk, and little grandpa D, I will just block you.
This is a GOD TIER comment, end of :P
Hey there!
It's a story driven adult visual novel and I like it to be more on the logical/realistic side. So if I have a large amount of girls who have to be fixated on the MC, I will at least make the pacing believable, so he won't randomly have scenes with all the girls that easily. I've added some variation, e.g. Amber is more easily to get scenes with as for example Lucy. Some aren't even interested in MC at the beginning. Some are randomly interested in him, some have been interested in him for years.
Ignore the stats, honestly this is just another post I've read over the years which just might me remove the statscreen. It's just that you achieved 100% of the achievable stats so far, nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't mean "I have 100% with Lucy, where scenes?!", it's just based on the character itself and that you achieved everything I've managed to put into the game for this specific character.
There will be deeper, kinkier scenes in the future ;) But it just doesn't make any sense to include them randomly at after 3 Chapters. This isn't your typical "fuckfest" porn game, it's a story driven adult visual novel :. Whereas adult also refers to violence and horror, to a certain degree only of course.
I don't get what you mean by not seeing a certain girl in 2nd and 3rd chapter, I have to split up the screen time between the available chars and add new ones so people don't get bored by only seeing on char. I don't get which character has full attraction and is supposed to be "inaccessible". I made it easy to stay or leave a girls path so far.
Sorry that it didn't match your expectations, but my vision for the novel is to have a slow start until you will reach a point where the sex initiates naturally because MC has build a relationship with each girl and it doesn't look like it's randomly forced into the game. Takes a long time to create these scenes and I want to tell a story in the end, albeit with sex mixed in :D
OK.
Let me first say this : Your game, graphically, and the aesthetic, is AMAZING. I am also seemingly enjoying the story for now, though the details are somewhat, and I know this is by design, vague, right now, so I cannot be sure how good, or bad, or bat-sh*t cray cray THAT side of things is right now. But I like all that, everything is awesome... overall.
But that stat screen? I guess I just assumed once you made 100% with someone, SOMETHING would happen... not that it would only have to happen once... but it would be the first encounter of many down her path. In part, because they KIND OF, sorta, DID happen with a couple of girls I 100% in the first chapter.... Amber and A... whatever the A name twin is called.... tbh.... I am not good with names, I am more of a...physical traits kinda guy (like I wont recall a girls name, I will just call her Clitoris Piercing.. because she has one, or Tramp Stamp because she has one of those, or Teacher, because she is that etc etc).
So yeah, having had Naomi (I remember THAT name because it is MY FAV girls name being slightly dyslexic... because when that happens ... it is something that is dependent on volume of text... I can manage simple sentences most times... but when that kicks it... she becomes Imoan... or I MOAN... so remember that name on any lady :P )...... already jump me... what, TWICE iirc, and then having her admit she is uncontrolably attracted to me (to the point she basically R words the MC), and then seeing that once I got Amber and A twin to 100% what happened.... I just assumed that meant I would begin my strange, seemingly slightly mutually exploitative and abusive, torrid D/S sexual relationship with Miss I Moan in the final chapter, too. I had everything 100% both stats, including her kink side... so given all that... it just seemed logical.
When it did not happen, it ruined my immersion. I was just suddenly done, game over for now... no Naomi.
That what I meant by inaccessible for ONE thing... we sure dealt with her a LOT, but that WASNT the pathway to aforementioned terrible mistake I thought it was going to be.
Yeah, so, just being honest, I did find it a bit slow, on the Adult part of AVN. Everyone has their pace... but with a HUGE roster of women, which the Stats screen between chapters reveals there ARE in this game... well the game is not alone in that... in most, when there ARE so many, the MC ends up beginning his D lead charge to giving them all the best two and half minutes of their lives, pretty quickly, for at least SOME of them.
I understand to many AVN authors, it is the STORY first. You do you. I aint making them game, and it is free.... but for me the A part is JUST if not MORE important... otherwise I would just play VNs instead of AVNs :P
Considering she almost orally R'd me the first time we met, for example, being three chapters in, but getting NO time to go further with Jane, and being C blocked by the annoying daughters the ONE chance you get to try bring it up, feels like WAY TOO SLOW a burn for me, and seems to suggest the A bit will be fairly .. low key... not in terms of quality or length, pacing, blocking, etc of those scenes... but the amount.
Which breaks my fragile heart, because I was hoping to give Jane a great many repeat two and half minutes, and Amber too, and Green Haired Goth Cutie, and Teacher, and Annoying Twins, and Malfunctioning Sexbot, and Naomi... and Bright Red Hair transfer girl... and masked stripper... and lesbian toilet ingenue too actually... ... then combinations of them... three minutes spread out over Jane, and Annoying Twincs, or one of them, at once, or Green Goth girl and Naomi and teacher at once etc etc etc :P :P :P
But unless the adult content comes back end loaded in the story HEAVY AF, then I suspect there will not be enough of it for me at this pacing, unless the game winds up 30 chapters long lol.
So I will just hold off rating this one, or give a solid four for effort.. and come back in 24 months or so LOL, see how we wind up.
Don't mind me, I am a grumpy old sicko, who likes his AVNs VERY A heavy, is all.
This one still shows how awesome the effort you've put in otherwise is.
Thank you very much! :)
Yeah it's not like when you hit 100%, something will definitely happen, it's basically just that you have all of the available affection or if possible submission points for those characters, might be a bit confusing!
MC is actually the one who took initiative with Naomi and she was attracted by his boldness as she admits in Chapter 2 on the school hallway, the first time in the hospital was actually a dream and not real, the second time though... Naomi will definitely get some future scenes, but as you said, she already had more or less two and I need to manage my available screen time to introduce the other girls and have potential scenes with them in the future :)
At the moment I'm definitely more focus on getting the story going, developing the relationship with the girls. Adult content will come, once the relationships are developed, that's just natural for me to do (for most characters at least, some are not slow burn (e.g. Naomi or Amber who have scenes relatively early)). The game will definitely be a bit longer at this current pacing and the adult content will develop over time as well, when the relationships are at that point.
I will continue to put in effort and in 24 months, there should definitely be more A content in it! :D
I thought you are the same author of the That New Teacher because the arts is some what close or similar.
Haha! Then I’m the same author of Eternum too :D Just kidding obviously, our games all use the same engine in the back, that's why they tend to look similar and use similar assets. We're all different people though :)
Its funny i learned of this game from that new teacher
Great to hear :)
Este juego de verdad parece que va estar bueno pero la veo algo corta aún, saldrá más episodios no? En cuanto tiempo lo lanzas por acá?
¡Muchas gracias! Sí, habrá más episodios. Ahora mismo estoy trabajando en la versión 0.4.
Does this only run through the site player? I think I downloaded this, and launching took me to a page.... does this not run as a stand along programme?
When launching the .exe took you to a page, you might have downloaded a scam version. Don't download from another site than my itch/patreon/subscribestar! I can only assure that those are safe to download.
Aside from that, you can download the game from here, the download links are slightly above the comments and safe to use. They should run just fine, without forwarding you to any site.
Awesome let me retry then. Thanks.
1k+ rating on itch let's go Panda!!! 🥳🥳🥳 Congrats again fam.
Yay!!! 🥳 Let's go, thank you!!! 🥳
Hi, I'm using a translator. Is there a possibility of the game being translated into Brazilian Portuguese? The only language I can barely use to play is English, but I'm terrible at it.
ola estou usando tradutor, existe alguma possibilidade do jogo ser traduzido para português-br? o único idioma que consigo porcamente usar pra jogar é o inglês, mas sou péssimo
Hey there! I have Brazilian Portuguese over on Discord. Here is the link where you can find it: https://mega.nz/folder/ez4miIxT#kcWQxo_4Re1SiNvaTXokAg
When you find any bugs, please report them in Discord! :)
Had fun, do remind me when the next update hits.
Happy to hear! I do post updates regularly everywhere :)
Hey there. What's Beyond Humanity and how is it connected to this?
Hey there, it is the SFW version :) same content.
Hey debating panda can you just recommend some game like between humanity and University of problem , plz. I only found you which gives reply to everyone.
Hey there! Join the discord https://discord.gg/VFq9HSr93E and check out the #other-games channel, or ask some of the other members, they're all super helpful and will help you out for sure :)
eturnum is really good
and once in a life time